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Evening, I'm Molly young from the Miami University Alumni Association.
As part of the Miami alumni associations webinar series and in partnership with the College of Education, Health and Society.
Today we present changemakers careers beyond the classroom, joining us for today's conversation, are.
Being of the College of Education, health, and society.
Jason lane and EHS alumni, Dr.
Dina Chisholm, jostle and Hubbard.
Jeffrey Cranor, Graham, and Robert Hendrix, the third.
So just a little bit about our panelists, Dr.
Dina Chisholm.
Is nationwide foundation and dared shall chair rather in health equity and Research.
Director of the Center for child health equity and outcomes research, and vice president for health services research in the Abigail Wechsler Research Institute at Nationwide Children's Hospital.
So he is also a, a Professor of Pediatrics and public health and the Ohio State University.
She earned her BS in biological science education from Miami in 1990 and went onto received her MS In preventative medicine and Dr.
It and public health from the Ohio State University.
Jocelyn Hubbard, its founder and managing director, accustomed teaching solutions, LLC.
She has 16 years experience and education as an educator, speaker, professional development creator, and facilitator, driven by a, a passion to see the diverse people of our world feel welcome, affirmed, and celebrated.
She provides training to become and remain culturally competent.
Jocelyn received a a BS and education from Miami in 2006 and an MA in education from the University of North Carolina, Pembroke.
She is also she also has rather a a graduate certificate and gift.
Didn't untalented instruction from the University of North Carolina, Charlotte.
Robert Hendrix.
The third is the founder and Chief Executive Officer of he is me institute, a, a national non-profit that aims to recruit, retain, and retire black men in teaching.
At the same time.
He also started a company to provide consultation services to education organizations such as thrives Chicago and 4 schools.
He currently serves as Vice President of the board of uplift incorporated and Minneapolis, Minnesota, and treasurer of the board of the Laila G.
Frederick middle school in Boston.
Since UCITS, Robert earned his BS in middle childhood education in 2011 and his masters and Educational Leadership routine.
And last but certainly not.
Graham, who is a, a digital producer and filming.
Baker as writer, he option to half an hour comedy, which was eventually produced in screened at multiple festivals and won an award of excellence from the best shorts Film Festival.
He's coming of age, comedy, feature ship life was featured on Franklin Leonard's blacklist website in 2016.
It's team Jeff cocreated and hosted the unproduced table, read a podcast with Maria a, a new gnosis online broadcast network, popcorn talk, and currently produces in co-hosts the screen writing life, a, a podcasts with Oscar-nominated writer megaliths and show runner Laurie and McKenna.
This year, Jeffrey Also directed his first feature, always Lola, from a screen, he wrote on and around Miami campus, ultimately with shot here at Miami is campus.
And while the features in post-production, he plans a, a festival rollout later this year.
Jeffrey earned a a BA in integrated language arts from my end.
I mean, in 2013, welcome to you all for being here.
Thank you so much for taking the time to join us today.
Just your a a reminder for our audience, questions were collected during registration and our panelists will attempt to address most of those throughout the webinar today, you'll also have the opportunity to ask questions.
Exchange during the webinar by clicking the button question under the screen.
Please note in the interest of time, we may not have quite enough time to get to everyone on the list.
So today's webinar will last about an hour, including those questions and answers.
And with that, I'm gonna turn it over to deem lane.
To get our conversation started.
Welcome.
Thanks.
Glad to be here with each and every one of you.
Thrilled to have a a here with this conversation with just an incredible group of EHS changemakers, you can tell from their bio is that each of them have gone off and charted.
I think amazing pathways into their particular careers.
And we're gonna hear a little bit more about them before we get into their stories.
I just wanted to mention first EHS called vegetation held in society.
It's not in 190 to, as Miami University first professional school.
We are now comprised of six academic departments that serve around 3500 students and a, a variety of career paths, including.
Education.
In fact, we are one of the only universities in Ohio.
It continues to gain enrollments and teacher education.
And I think that is because of of our historic and ongoing commitment to preparing S and the brightest teachers to take on the challenges of tomorrow.
And you're gonna hear more about the work that's been happening here in the AHS from our alumni.
Over the last many years.
Today, we are really committed to making sure that we are trying to address the growing teacher crisis that's happening here in Ohio and across the nation.
And so we are proud that we have growing enrollments and that we are attracting more folks to consider education as a career profession.
But we also know that the Preparation we provide prepares folks for variety of different group paths as well.
The skills and knowledge gained across the teacher education programs really prepare a, a changemakers to go out and create positive difference in society and range of ways.
And so today, we're going to hear about four of those journeys.
So welcome to our alumni who are on the panel today.
No, many here, here.
Here you're pathway, I think the on teacher education and out into your careers, but I want to start first with the pathway that brought you to Miami.
Why why did you come to Miami and how did you find your way into teacher education as your academic preparation.
And so they don't know who I'm gonna call on first.
So I think I'm just gonna call on on Jeff first.
He was the most recent and maybe we work backwards.
Sure.
Well, thanks so much for having me so exciting.
I love Miami so much and I have such a finest and infection for my time there that it's just great to be here.
So thanks so much.
In terms of how I wound up at my.
I am the youngest of three and both of my older sisters did go to Miami.
So in some ways it kinda like a a no brainer.
I've been Cleveland, Ohio and as everyone here knows, Ohio in terms of like public state schools, I think is one of the best in the country.
There's a ton of great public state schools to choose from.
And I think it's teachers, there's also something about a a public school that field.
Feels feels important.
And I was just kind of drawn to that.
So in terms of why I chose education as my major, I've always loved the humanities, so I knew I wanted to kind of pursue something English related or English adjacent or like literature related.
So I figured that this was a great way for me that's still make sure that I was kind of.
Gauging in creative writing and literature, but also, you know, time, something practical.
I feel like I could take to my life as I was leaving school.
And also, I love teaching.
I love people.
I'm pretty extroverted, which I think helps.
But, you know, when you think about your time even applying to school and developing taste and learning.
Who you are.
So much of that has to do with the influential teachers in your life who kind of shaped you and point of view to where you wanted to go.
So knowing that there's so many role models in my life pushed me to even end up at Miami.
It felt like a great path for me and, you know, while I'm not teaching now, you know, my year teaching after school and of course student teaching.
Being was really valuable and hugely formative for me.
And we'll get into that later.
Where did you do your student teaching?
Can you hear me, Jeff?
Gosh, I'm so sorry.
I just lost audio in my ear, so I'm just I'll fix it.
I think it has to do with that.
Robert, I think next up, tell us a little bit about your journey to Miami.
Yeah.
Pretty easy one, it was really from a a visit.
But it was a week long visit or maybe it was two weeks.
It was during the multicultural Leadership Program, which used to happen over the summer for rising.
High-school seniors in participating in that taking classes, meetings, students, both potential students who are also in the program, as well as the camp counselors that would manage the programs they were undergraduate and graduate students.
So just being on campus, getting a meat.
Folks, if felt like the perfect transition after leaving high school.
But I was not in education major at the time.
It was at the end of my sophomore year when I switched my major to education from business in and that was mostly because of.
Of of two things that kinda happened at the same time.
A a one in I was teaching or serving as an undergraduate instructor for the intro to psychology course, which require me to take classes on, on pedagogy, then actually instructing a a class at the same time, I had work study where.
I worked with America reason America counts being a tutor, not only an Oxford, but also back and Cincinnati at the elementary school that I went to a a when I was a kid.
So those things kind of of came together and made me switched my major.
I realized that was something in that for me and I was passionate about it and I enjoyed it.
So starting junior year, I was first year.
Major.
Favorite memory from from Miami, Robert.
A a lot of there's a lot of things I would say the most consistent one is all the people who used to be I know is used to in Shriver.
I was late nights between that and then just the belt.
Tower walk want to get some food when everything else is closed, one of those two or maybe those together.
Enough, Jeff, I'll circle back to you.
I think what I was asking, where did you do your student teaching and just maybe a a favorite memory of that experience.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Sorry, I lost audio for back now, so this is the new world we live in, right.
My, I taught in Middletown actually so close to Miami and that was suctioned, enriching experience because that's school is really so refreshingly diverse in terms of just huge slots of demographic interests.
And, you know, I had I was teaching an API class, but also sort of like a remedial speech class.
So it was really valuable for me to feel like I could connect with such variety.
I need students and, you know, that was also write that hillbilly elegy book was coming out to which is all about Middletown.
So I know teachers that show up in that book, so that was a really that was a really enriching experience.
And I think in terms of, of favorite memory, I got to teach Catcher in the right.
And I think because that book is.
So specifically about adolescents, the students really were able to connect with it.
So I think teaching that book and trying to connect in some ways, I think I frustrations with that book, but at the same time, I also think that like trying to engage the students and what it means to be adolescent was really interesting and like provocative, like I think we'd really interesting discussions in that class.
All right.
Jocelyn, I'll bring you in now.
Does that tell us a little bit your pathway to Miami?
All right.
Well, first of all, I'm really glad Robert, that you said the name of the program because I was like frantically tried to tech so of my friends like who was the name of that summer program that we did, right?
MLB.
That I also participated in that program.
And That is honestly what brought me to Miami because I was dead set that I was not going to estate school.
I was gonna go to anywhere outside of the State of Ohio.
I'm from Cincinnati and my parents or like you really should give Miami a shot.
Johnson, it's a a grade school.
The Education Department is amazing because I've always known that I wanted to be a teacher, always like.
From very early on, I would torture my siblings and make them sit still and do whatever random worksheets I had.
I brought home from kindergarten or whatever.
So I participated in MLP and it was it was an amazing experience.
I was actually there with a couple of people that I went to high school with.
So that made it even.
And more enriching like, Oh, are you thinking about going to college here as well?
And then seeing some of the undergrad and graduate students that were the counselors, their I I mean, they made the experience so much fun.
And I was able to see a different side of college life like.
I did not realize that I knew that black Greek organizations were a thing, but no one in my family was a member of an organization.
And so I just kind of seen it randomly, but they're like they threw a party at the very end of the program and all the black groups with their and everyone was just so supportive and uplifting and I was like, this is where I want to be.
I came to Miami and I think you said in that you always wanted to be a teacher, so that was just that you're natural choice.
In this experience.
So how about for you, but where did you do your student teaching and maybe a, a favorite memory.
I did my student teaching at Akin and also at Whitman Woods middle school.
So I was a double-major.
Well, it was at Miami.
I was.
Integrated language arts and then also integrated social studies.
So I did my social studies.
A, a student teaching it went woods and then I did my English and Akin and I think a a favorite memory was actually when I went when we were going into the student teaching process, I went to the School of Education and I said, I want a a school in intersect.
So the Cincinnati I do not want to do like everyone else wants to go to some of the, you know, suburbs and have a certain demographic.
I want to go into the inner city of Cincinnati, and I want to teach their, and so an Akin when I first got there, the principle of vice principal or roles like we have a student teacher, we haven't had a student teacher and like 20 years like, Oh my gosh, everyone was like so excited to see me and.
I was like, I loved it.
And so there was another student that was also also graduated the same time as I did.
And so she and I did our student teaching together and we drove their together and it was a really great experience.
Well, I will fast forward a few years to now.
And just to share that now we have an amazing grow your own program with Akan high-school, where we are working hand in hand with it.
And to encourage some of those high schoolers to consider teaching and come to Miami and hopefully go back to Cincinnati.
So you started something within they're they're Jocelyn and so remember I missed you on where do you do your student teaching?
I actually didn't even do it.
So mind-blowing.
Was going to do abroad.
But everything came back to the timing of everything, didn't happen.
So I ended up taking the student teaching portion off and using that semester to start graduate school at Miami.
Got it.
Well, that's why stay straight through.
It's more backstory about that's when I first started to think like, do I want to teach or do I wanna do something else in education?
And that was my kind of of test.
All right, the whole story and then we'll get to that point in time.
So Dina, tell us tell us about your journey.
I am originally for Springfield.
Again.
Local who was pretty sure I was gonna end up staying in state schools just because of the financial positives of going to the State School.
There's a a few of the campuses and Visited Miami.
And, you know, loved the campus and the experience.
I didn't have siblings that went to Miami.
I had a a grandfather who went to Miami.
He was only there for about a year-and-a-half.
He came after solving and World War II, III, we came to Miami.
Hi baseball and had a, a very interesting, very fifties Miami experience.
But always regretted not having finished.
And so when I started looking at schools, he sort of of meds to me to finish the path, but Let's dive.
And so that got me to Miami has passed off my a a man went to a a Major League Baseball.
So you can't say it was a bad thing.
But I got to sort of do the finish line at the Miami degree process.
I came in not knowing for sure what I wanted to major and I was pretty undecided.
Fan of math and science.
I was leaning towards pre-med, but just not sure I wanted to take the whole path.
So ultimately made the decision that I was going to take on my pre-med coursework, but I was also going to do a a teacher at degree and secondary biology.
Tickling sharp.
So that if I decided not to go the pre-med route, I had higher of of skillset to move forward from.
So that's really how I ended up being a education slash pre-med major while I was there.
I didn't.
My student teaching at green hills was transitional suburb Cincinnati, so not quite urban than not quite suburban at the time.
One of my favorite memories as a breakthrough that will only be humerus to people who love biology.
I was taught all the levels, so I taught the remedial all the way up through the API.
And my remedial class I was teaching genetics, teaching Punnett squares and talking about when you mix a, a homozygous, dominant and homozygous recessive.
How what that looks like in the Punnett square.
And I knew my soon.
I just didn't think they are getting I think it was just too much too fast.
And one of my students said, so I get, I get.
So if you mix a, a black person and a a white person, you get a black cat or white kid and to mixed kids, right?
About thought.
That is so beautifully wrong that it's right.
And I love.
I really felt that day that wasn't quite right, but it had penetrated in a way that was making people think creatively.
And so that's one of my favorite teaching memories.
So much more descriptive and Mendelian his peas.
That way better than the BCE.
So let me.
Let me bring Dina definitely conversation I think for the, the two of you, you probably have the career paths that had been the most outside of, of the traditional normal education.
Dina, moving into healthcare, public health, Jeff, you know, in into the production world, media production for you, you know, you both alluded to a a little bit.
I think it's part of your company.
College experience, but you know, what was a a point that you really decided that you are going to pursue something other than that traditional path toward teaching.
And Abby, be asked, what help clarify what you are passionate about.
That's that's a great question.
I'm happy to start it.
That's okay.
I think for me, I was always drawn a creative writing and I think there might have been some truth to the fact that I may have been pursuing English education as a proxy for the fact that my real dream was to see if I might be able to make a career writing and possibly selling material.
So while I loved teaching and I think in some ways it can be one of the most fulfilling professions that you'll ever find.
Other thing about teaching, I'll say that I sometimes Mrs.
It's just never, ever boring and that's one thing I really miss.
It's just reliably good days, bad days.
You are never board as a teacher.
So that's another thing that's really appealing.
I think I did.
Feel like I would be doing a disservice to the stream.
I had to try to make a career writing and sort of maybe like feel like a shadow artist or like sort of pursuing the humanities by proxy.
Unless I really went for it so truthfully, I taught for some time and just kind of made the decision like so many do when they moved to LA of like, I have to try I'm gonna go.
And see what happens and keep an open mind, but better for me now in my early twenties to go give it a shot and see what happens rather than decided 40.
Do you know at that point you kind of set roots and you're more firm and whatever your career path is taken.
And I didn't want to present myself, like my young self for not giving it a shot.
So I think just asking.
The not question of, you know, if in 20 years you asked what I regret this, if the answer feels like maybe yes, that's a great way to clarify your goals.
I think when you make that lead per take a risk, ask yourself what your 40 year-old self would say to you now, or whatever age it would be.
I know we have a a range of ages of the call, but whatever that is in 20 years from where you want.
Br if you feel like you would resent or regret that person, then you have to take the leap is what I think that's a great response of of course now you've got a, a movie coming out, right?
Yes, we're hoping for festivals and then I'll talk more about if people are curious, but I think a, a, either a, a Fall 2020 to release or 2023.
It'll it'll live somewhere.
And you'll see Miami all over that.
You'd sure.
Well, yes, it's farmers School of Business of of the movie cough Enya's in the movie outside p bodies in the movies.
So it's gonna be really fun for my Amy students to try to pinpoint where we are on campus in the movie.
I know you're gonna have at least a few, few eager fans whenever it comes out.
Well, thank you very much.
I felt so supported by Miami going through it, so I feel nothing but grateful.
That's great.
So Dina healthcare, I mean, you talked about this in your response here, right?
You were always I think drawn to the science.
I always knew that I wanted to pull together my interest in health.
I understand science.
Growing up as a child with chronic illness that was really something that molded me thinking health care or health was well was gonna wanna be, but I couldn't figure out exactly where that was.
I had a great experience student teaching.
It taught me a a lot of.
Things and dealt me a lot of skills.
But it also at that point made me realize I wasn't ready for that work.
I learned so much about the fact that teaching as much as you love the science is a, a lot about classroom management, a, a lot about social work, and a a lot about.
You know, counseling.
And I thought right now I wanna do science.
And so I said, you know, I'm going to keep teaching in my heart, keep teaching in my mind, but choose the path that focused on the content more than the delivery of the content.
And I wasn't sure what that was gonna be because I had.
Not taking the MCAT with but I wasn't wearing the med school right away at least.
And I had an interesting experience where some recruiters from Ohio State could come down to Miami.
I'm looking to recruit graduate students and looking specifically partially at least two recruit minority graduate students.
And they went to the Center for Black Cultural exposed to the for black culture and learning, which used to exist.
And what to the director them.
This is the resume of of color, who was an amazing advocate for all of her students since he counted all of us as a a students.
And when they showed up and said, Well, we're looking for somebody who likes math and science.
Do you have anybody?
I don't know what Dina is doing with her life, but let's call her.
And I came over.
I met the people from Ohio State.
They ended up bringing me up for visit.
I got a a full ride with a fellowship that started me on that path to epidemiology, which I didn't even know what it was before I got there, but found.
That was really my passion was the idea of being able to use numbers and data to influence health and use that information to teach.
And a, a different way.
You talked a little bit about mentorship, I think and and support in your response, they received certain folks in Miami, you continue to get back.
To Miami and mentor others.
Can talk a little bit about that sort of unofficial wall you have and mentoring other Miami and supporting their have, you know, I really love being able to give that as a person ice and college graduate, I know those first.
Yours are hard to figure out why you're there are what you're doing or why you don't have the same outfits that some of your classmates have and all those sorts of things.
So I enjoy the opportunity to mentor when I can.
And there's a few folks on campus who know what I do and who tossed in my way for.
One-on-ones or for visits.
So summer internships and I just really enjoy the opportunity as sharing my path, which was a little non-traditional and really helping them to crystallize their own vision and helping them to understand that.
You can come up with great ideas about what you want to be today that may have absolutely nothing to do with.
Where you end up 30 years from now.
What's more important as figuring out what you love and then filling out the places you can do that.
What's may change over time.
So helping people to crystallize the vision and helping them to follow these paths that are sometimes a, a little obscure to folks who haven't had laid out before them before.
You talked about funding your path.
And the question of of the asked about that passion.
Can do you know, when they went with mean deciding heel, this public health, this is the field I really want to go into at the passion for me or wasn't more of a a slow evolution over time.
I think, you know, once I started graduate school and the program, I realized.
I love this stuff.
I realized that I was able to do health and a, a way that wasn't one patient at a time.
But that really looked at populations and communities and neighborhoods.
And I fell in love with doing that part of the work of feeling like I could make a difference on larger scale.
And that I could use what I already learned as a teacher in terms of doing health education.
And that's why I'm saying.
But also really taking that to a, a difference model of different delivery mechanism, a different mode.
And that has really been my joy.
My career over the past many years.
That's haven't been July certainly keeps us all going and his careers, Robert and Jocelyn, both in the you have have founded and run organizations that are intended to support educators and Nikolay Robert, including Blackman of, of the field.
I love.
That wasn't recruit them and we're tiger them and make sure that they stay in the field.
Jocelyn even focused on on professional development for teachers and creating classroom that or inclusive and culturally responsive.
Could you talk a little bit about how, how you, your journey from, from the teach red program, you know, into.
I think in classrooms and then eventually the organizations that are supporting educators in this space.
And Robert, maybe I'll ask you to jump in first.
Sure.
The big thing that really pushed me in this direction is realizing in Embrace in the fact that black males do have a, a profound impact on students achievement.
And to understand that black males like teaching, we, we often assume or believe that black men don't wanna be in the classroom, but that's just not true.
And and so I'll solve for myself first.
Pan in the classroom.
Other black note educators that I know trying to understand what it is pushing the black males out of the classroom out of that space.
And then looking even deeper into was retaining them, the ones that do stay, the ones that do follow through with that, that passion of becoming a teacher and staying a, a teacher.
And then We want to really replicate those because the absence of what black most can bring a, a classroom impacts everybody.
It's not just the students will also their peers, the families of, of students, the school culture itself.
And at the same vein, is also unfair to expect black males to be the Making those changes in bringing our realization to the schools.
And so the families and all the other constituents.
So the work that we do with he is me as directly with the colleges, the K12 schools that teacher prep programs, so that they have the tools and the resources and the environments that black males are looking for.
And I'm not talking about after they are 2122 just got that bachelor's degree, but I'm talking about before they even leave high-school while they're in elementary school, you know, if I'm superintendent or a a principle and I'm thinking about my my staff over a period of time.
You have a bunch of students.
It's most of the times thousands of students.
Right under your knows who's got to figure out a, a path.
So why not do things early to build those relationships for them to see what it's like to be a teacher, for them to see themselves in teaching, for them to feel successful in the the school environment.
If we're gonna ask them to come back.
And you got to ask him to come back to environments that they have fond memories of of.
So that's what we come in to do with not to give you a quick fix to increase your diversity next year.
But what systematically and strategically are you doing to make sure this happens because it should be a snowball effect when you have so many kids in front of you every day.
Do you think back at what point did you decide?
I'm just gonna go create an organization and make this happen.
You know, a few things happen at the same time.
Noticing all the the gaps in the issues that we're not just in the the school I was at, but just in schools in general.
In a a realized a one.
The to shift out.
I never wanted to leave education, but I knew I didn't want to be in the the building anymore because it felt like my my reach was limited in terms of what I could change.
You have his locus of control, but so many things that are happening externally, either within the district or.
The network, or politically.
It just so many, so many layers at the same time.
I couldn't find a job that I really wanted to do.
I kinda always role model and job descriptions or pitch roles for my employers.
You kinda one hand many times I've gotten a a job that existed before I got there.
So I like to start from scratch and my business mine never lived in my intro, I mentioned that was a business major at first and that was really hard decision to switch away from it.
And it was after that while at Miami was started in a a student.